Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:09:44 +0100
From: Rosalind Relle
We are a small to medium sized charity in desperate need of a fundraising
database to help with contact management, keep track of campaigns & events,
and manage existing donors and their donations. We have looked at a few
products in the marketplace and the best we have seen to date is Raiser’s
Edge. It is, however, very expensive to buy and I am concerned about
on-going running costs. I would be very grateful for any advice you may have
about alternative (and cheaper!) products to Raiser’s Edge or your thoughts
about Raiser’s Edge itself.
Please feel free to respond by return mail.
With many thanks,
The Outward Bound Trust – http://www.outwardbound-uk.org
207 Waterloo Road
Telephone 020 7928 1991
Fax 020 7928 3733
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:21:34 +0100
From: Jonathan Evans
Raiser’s Edge is an excellent system, extremely flexible, comprehensive, and
works “out of the box”. It’s also very easy for anyone with a vague grasp
of Windows software to operate.
FSID is another small to medium sized charity, and we’ve found it
invaluable. It’s not the cheapest thing around, but – for us – it’s been a
vital investment. (I’m not saying that either it or BBE is perfect, but
then few things are!)
I’m sure, though, that other options do exist depending on your precise
needs. You might try speaking to someone like Peter Flory, who is subbed to
If you have any specific RE questions, please feel free to contact me.
Jonathan M C Evans
Direct Marketing Officer
The Foundation for the Study of Infant Deaths
11-19 Artillery Row
Tel: 0870 787 0711
Get involved! Cot Death Awareness Week 3-10 May 2003. Email
[email]email@example.com[/email] to find out more.
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:25:57 +0100
From: Rasma Bertz
I worked with RE in a previous job, and it is a top notch programme, worth
the initial expense. We did not utilise the support much, but this might in
part be due to the fact that I am very computer literate. The most major
problem I had was when our main server crashed or became too small to handle
the upgraded version. Hope this helps.
Miss Rasma Bertz
179 Constitution Street
Aberdeen AB24 5TU
01224 640340/ 07763 132850
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 07:47:01 +0100
From: Charlie Marshall
To whomsoever was asking about cheap software, we recently had a demo
involving the following:
1. Mr Paul Steadman, Managing Director, New Generation Consultancy, Park
IT Centre, Coryton, Okehampton, Devon, EX20 4 PG (Telephone: 0845 – 345
1984 – product AppealMaster)
2. Mr Roger Williams, Anglo – Europe Computer Systems Ltd, 16-18 King
Street, Newcastle -Under-Lyme, Staffs, ST5 1EJ (Telephone: 01782 –
713409 – product, Open.Market)
3. Ms Jo Davies, Marketing Projects Manager, Care Data Systems Limited,
Patrick House, Lakeside Centre, Lifford Lane, Kings Norton, B’ham
(0121-458-7887 – product, Donorflex)
4. Mr David Warnock, Managing Director, Sundayta Ltd, International
House, 174 Three Bridges Road, Crawley, West Sussex RH10 1LE (Telephone:
01293 – 407474 – product, Visible Results)
5. Mr Jonathan Air, Charity Software limited, Unit 3, Avonside
Industrial Estate, Avonside Road, Bristol, BS2 0UQ (Telephone: 0117 –
971 – 6175, product, Donor2000)
6. Mr Roger Bourdon, APT Solutions Limited, Business Design Centre, 52
Upper Street, London N1 0 QH (Telephone: 020 – 7704 – 8006, product,
I think nos. 4 and 5 are probably the cheapest, although the demo was
specifically for those companies looking to supply those Scottish
charities who currently use appealmaster, whose parent company has now
been taken over by Blackbaud.
Age Concern Scotland
113 Rose Street
Edinburgh EH2 3DT
Tel. 0131 625 9320
Fax 0131 220 2779
Age Concern Scotland is a registered charity no. SC010100
Age Concern Scotland Ltd is a company limited by Guarantee. Reg No
153343 Charity No: SC 010100. Registered Office: Leonard Small House,
113 Rose Street, Edinburgh EH2 3DT. Tel: +44 (0)131 220 3345 Fax: +44
(0)131 220 2779
Web site http://www.ageconcernscotland.org.uk
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:07:55 +0100
From: Colin Hay
I ran a meeting yesterday in Grangemouth for 28 AppealMaster users and 6
database companies presented their systems to the meeting.
As you may know AppealMaster was purchased by the Raiser’s Edge in July of
this year. We left the Raiser’s Edge to go to AppealMaster so we also need
a new database.
As far as we are concerned the new version of the Raiser’s Edge – beta
version 7.5 has all the good contact management features of AppealMaster
inserted and is now a much better product – but expensive!
One other that you may like to consider is STRATUM by APT Solutions. I am
also seriously considering this database as a possible for the Society.
If you would like more information, please give me a ring. I will be free
after 4pm today and on Thursday afternoon or any time on Friday.
Colin S Hay
Director of Programmes
The Scottish Bible Society
7 Hampton Terrace, Edinburgh, EH12 5XU
Visit our on-line Bible store and Save £££’s
on Bibles and Bible Resources –
Web Site: http://www.scottishbiblesociety.org
Tel: 0131 337 9701
Fax: 0131 337 0641 <^)\><
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 06:19:49 EDT
From: Deborah Cole
I was faced with the same problem working for a very small independent school
that is a charity and a not for profit organisation. Our fees are very low
which allows a lot of pupils from the state system to benefit from our
renowned Dyslexia Unit.
All our records were paper ones and I only had 80 past pupils on the database
and the school was founded in 1911!!!
We have therefore created our own database in microsoft word. It has all the
fields I need at present and I now have 700 listed, only another 60 years of
pupils to track down and add!!!
I know in the future we will have to have something more sophisticated, but
at least this will give us time to raise the finance for such a piece of
If I was you I would call the other charities in your area (the big national
ones) and see what they are using and ask if you can spend some time with
them seeing how it works. I have heard good and bad things about all the
database software that is available, but seeing first hand from someone else,
I am sure will make your mind up.
Don’t be bullied into rushing in to anything, you may regret it later. Also
speak to some computer whizz kids in your area.
The other option is to see if your local university could help you. They may
even be able to use the study as part of their course work.
I hope this helps
Mayville High School
email me at [email]firstname.lastname@example.org[/email]
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 16:45:41 +0100
From: Alistair Currie
Have a look on the IT for charities website – they have lots of good
information on databases. Including some free stuff
Hope that is of use.
Direct Line Tel: 020 7787 1054
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 22:10:29 +0100
From: Anita Macaulay
We debated long and hard about a database and in fact I asked for advice at
the time through this email group. In the end we decided to have a tailor
made database made to our specifications. This work is now complete and we
are delighted with the finished product. Mark Emms of Emmsit, the supplier
we finally contracted, understood much about charity operation and what we
wanted to get out of the software – he also has made modifications since at
very short notice when we have identified additional elements. The costs
were very reasonable too! I am happy to give his contact details of anyone
who would like them.
Jennifer Trust for SMA
Stratford upon Avon
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 09:14:59 +0100
From: Andrew Pring
Holding data in Word tables makes it easily transferable to Excel and
I have found that I can also get basic information imported into Outlook
for easy emailing but it relies on using the named fields used within
Outlook. They are not the same as those displayed.
Exporting an empty contacts file from Outlook to Excel will disclose the
correct field names and then your table can be copied into Excel and the
columns transferred to the appropriate header for exporting back to
Outlook. Check Excel help on Labels for giving the columns the field
names in the first entry otherwise they will not map.
I have also found Outlook as easy as Word for mailmerging and especially
useful for selecting particular recipients in tailor made fields for
both emailing and printed mailmerges.
Remember to blind copy when doing mass emailings to protect your clients
from spam and viruses.
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